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		<title>By: Vicki Betts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki Betts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back I transcribed the Civil War journal of a Gonzales County, Texas, man who was overage for the military.  He had concerns after the fall of Vicksburg about the future, including the eventual returning veterans:

&quot;Vicksburg has fallen—no doubt of it.  I am heart sick.  Whether in our struggle for independence we sink or swim, this I regard as no longer my country.  If we should finally succeed, in addition to a debt, which if repudiated will stamp us with eternal disgrace—if recognized will paralyze the energies of our people during many years—then will be returned upon us a body of men, familiar with blood, their habits of industry destroyed—their moral education lost, their sensibilities blunted, moral lepers are a curse to any community.  This I regard as the most favorable termination possible.  And I would not that my children should have such associates.  On the other hand, if we are overrun, our state will for years be the theatre of guerrilla warfare, and should we finally be subjugated a system of oppression, which will put to the blush the English atrocities in India.  And I want not that my children should be slaves.—Ergo—this is no longer my country—and henceforth my thoughts &amp; energies shall be directed towards finding a suitable asylum, and the means of reaching it.&quot;

He never left Gonzales County, although acquaintances became Confederados in Brazil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back I transcribed the Civil War journal of a Gonzales County, Texas, man who was overage for the military.  He had concerns after the fall of Vicksburg about the future, including the eventual returning veterans:</p>
<p>&#8220;Vicksburg has fallen—no doubt of it.  I am heart sick.  Whether in our struggle for independence we sink or swim, this I regard as no longer my country.  If we should finally succeed, in addition to a debt, which if repudiated will stamp us with eternal disgrace—if recognized will paralyze the energies of our people during many years—then will be returned upon us a body of men, familiar with blood, their habits of industry destroyed—their moral education lost, their sensibilities blunted, moral lepers are a curse to any community.  This I regard as the most favorable termination possible.  And I would not that my children should have such associates.  On the other hand, if we are overrun, our state will for years be the theatre of guerrilla warfare, and should we finally be subjugated a system of oppression, which will put to the blush the English atrocities in India.  And I want not that my children should be slaves.—Ergo—this is no longer my country—and henceforth my thoughts &amp; energies shall be directed towards finding a suitable asylum, and the means of reaching it.&#8221;</p>
<p>He never left Gonzales County, although acquaintances became Confederados in Brazil.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence J. O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence J. O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very disappointed with this show  -- but, not surprised, given the leftist cast of your programs.  Why is it so hard for those of your political stripe to simply praise valor, commitment, endurance, sacrifice  -- all of the martial virtues that all civiliations have cherished.  But, instead of simple, heart-felt appreciation for men and women who have done far more than you three academics would ever do (and you&#039;ll tell me if I&#039;m wrong that none of you rendered any military service)...instead of that, you have to focus on -- your favorites -- racism and sexism.   It&#039;s sad that you can&#039;t see anything but through the lenses of your two favorite obsessions.   While you insist on highlighting the one in a hundred veterans who talks about racism, you ignore the fact that -- if you want to talk disproportionality -- rural white southerners  are far more overrepresented in the ranks of those who have historically defended this country than any other demographic group.  Certainly more than college professors.  And, then, not content to dishonor those who&#039;ve served by  highlighting the negative, you lead off with an organization honoring confederate veterans so you can mount your liberal soapbox and damn -- again, your favorite, racism.  Let me ask you something.  What was the Civil War about?  Was it just about whether one race should be held in subjugation or was it an economic struggle in which capitalist of the North sought to defeat a hostile economic system in the South?  How many Union troops thought afro-americans were their social or juridical equals?  Did Lincoln think that?  I don&#039;t know how many confederate veterans who perished were slave owners, but I&#039;m guessing only a very small number.  What did the stars and bars that these men died under -- what did it represent?  For these Confederate dead, it represented that one group of people should not be able to impose their way of life on another.  Unfortunately, the way of life they defended embraced a moral evil, but their willingness to die for a cause which they identified as good does not make the perpetuation of their memory something that people of your ilk should have the temerity to scant.  Your moral posturing is infuriating enough -- but when it&#039;s directed at men that three politically-correct, liberal college professors like you couldn&#039;t hope to match in fortitude and backbone, it&#039;s outrageous.  If you do not know how to praise courage and bravery, then you need to be silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very disappointed with this show  &#8212; but, not surprised, given the leftist cast of your programs.  Why is it so hard for those of your political stripe to simply praise valor, commitment, endurance, sacrifice  &#8212; all of the martial virtues that all civiliations have cherished.  But, instead of simple, heart-felt appreciation for men and women who have done far more than you three academics would ever do (and you&#8217;ll tell me if I&#8217;m wrong that none of you rendered any military service)&#8230;instead of that, you have to focus on &#8212; your favorites &#8212; racism and sexism.   It&#8217;s sad that you can&#8217;t see anything but through the lenses of your two favorite obsessions.   While you insist on highlighting the one in a hundred veterans who talks about racism, you ignore the fact that &#8212; if you want to talk disproportionality &#8212; rural white southerners  are far more overrepresented in the ranks of those who have historically defended this country than any other demographic group.  Certainly more than college professors.  And, then, not content to dishonor those who&#8217;ve served by  highlighting the negative, you lead off with an organization honoring confederate veterans so you can mount your liberal soapbox and damn &#8212; again, your favorite, racism.  Let me ask you something.  What was the Civil War about?  Was it just about whether one race should be held in subjugation or was it an economic struggle in which capitalist of the North sought to defeat a hostile economic system in the South?  How many Union troops thought afro-americans were their social or juridical equals?  Did Lincoln think that?  I don&#8217;t know how many confederate veterans who perished were slave owners, but I&#8217;m guessing only a very small number.  What did the stars and bars that these men died under &#8212; what did it represent?  For these Confederate dead, it represented that one group of people should not be able to impose their way of life on another.  Unfortunately, the way of life they defended embraced a moral evil, but their willingness to die for a cause which they identified as good does not make the perpetuation of their memory something that people of your ilk should have the temerity to scant.  Your moral posturing is infuriating enough &#8212; but when it&#8217;s directed at men that three politically-correct, liberal college professors like you couldn&#8217;t hope to match in fortitude and backbone, it&#8217;s outrageous.  If you do not know how to praise courage and bravery, then you need to be silent.</p>
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		<title>By: twentieth-century guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>twentieth-century guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, what a lovely note.  And I know that you will enjoy the show even more when I point out that it was my 19th century guy colleague who did that SCV interview.  Informed? Sensitive? That has got to be Ayers, not Balogh.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Twentieth-century guy, Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, what a lovely note.  And I know that you will enjoy the show even more when I point out that it was my 19th century guy colleague who did that SCV interview.  Informed? Sensitive? That has got to be Ayers, not Balogh.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Twentieth-century guy, Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear American History Guys:  It&#039;s Saturday night November 14.  I was attempting to go in to my office at the University of Virginia hospital when the football game crowd was loosed from the stadium.   I never made it.  What a gift!  I&#039;ve never enjoyed a traffic snafu more.  Your Veteran&#039;s Day program was aired again tonight.  It was informative, insightful and moving.  You guys are great!   I feel a kinship with your listeners as well.  I agree that Brian managed a sensitive moment with the SCV spokesman gracefully.   Dr. Tick&#039;s work with The Soldier&#039;s Heart is inspirational.  And I, too, wonder when we will stop this devastating habit of sending young people to war.  General Douglas MacArthur once said:  &quot;I know war as few other men now living know it, and nothing to me is more revolting.  I have long advocated its complete abolition, as its very destructivenss on both friend and foe has rendered it useless as a method of sttling international disputes.&quot;   Our football team may not be all some would want, but I&#039;d much rather C&#039;ville be put on the map by the likes of you.  Thank you so much for your show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear American History Guys:  It&#8217;s Saturday night November 14.  I was attempting to go in to my office at the University of Virginia hospital when the football game crowd was loosed from the stadium.   I never made it.  What a gift!  I&#8217;ve never enjoyed a traffic snafu more.  Your Veteran&#8217;s Day program was aired again tonight.  It was informative, insightful and moving.  You guys are great!   I feel a kinship with your listeners as well.  I agree that Brian managed a sensitive moment with the SCV spokesman gracefully.   Dr. Tick&#8217;s work with The Soldier&#8217;s Heart is inspirational.  And I, too, wonder when we will stop this devastating habit of sending young people to war.  General Douglas MacArthur once said:  &#8220;I know war as few other men now living know it, and nothing to me is more revolting.  I have long advocated its complete abolition, as its very destructivenss on both friend and foe has rendered it useless as a method of sttling international disputes.&#8221;   Our football team may not be all some would want, but I&#8217;d much rather C&#8217;ville be put on the map by the likes of you.  Thank you so much for your show.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i enjoy your show a great deal. i was struck by the final conversation with Ed Tick. As someone who studies the international peace movement, I am uneasy about the warrior ethos- i understand it may be a solace or a way to heal, but what happens when the warrior ethos is used by cynical politicans to turn on  a civilian population? Are there historcal examples of  cases where veterans turned on civilians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i enjoy your show a great deal. i was struck by the final conversation with Ed Tick. As someone who studies the international peace movement, I am uneasy about the warrior ethos- i understand it may be a solace or a way to heal, but what happens when the warrior ethos is used by cynical politicans to turn on  a civilian population? Are there historcal examples of  cases where veterans turned on civilians?</p>
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		<title>By: BP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your thoughtful programming on this Veteran&#039;s Day, 2009. I am the mother of a just-returned Afghanistan war Vet who served there as a mental health practitioner in a remote FOB and I am the wife of a Viet Nam Vet who suffered decades of un-named and untreated PTSD. I appreciated your adding the woman at home&#039;s perspective on your program.

You touched on many of the vital questions of this complicated issue. I didn&#039;t like being reminded that how we understand history is through our wars -- ouch!  but it&#039;s a cold dose of reality and I&#039;m left wondering, will we ever learn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughtful programming on this Veteran&#8217;s Day, 2009. I am the mother of a just-returned Afghanistan war Vet who served there as a mental health practitioner in a remote FOB and I am the wife of a Viet Nam Vet who suffered decades of un-named and untreated PTSD. I appreciated your adding the woman at home&#8217;s perspective on your program.</p>
<p>You touched on many of the vital questions of this complicated issue. I didn&#8217;t like being reminded that how we understand history is through our wars &#8212; ouch!  but it&#8217;s a cold dose of reality and I&#8217;m left wondering, will we ever learn?</p>
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		<title>By: JayZee</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayZee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally fascinating show. I&#039;ve never heard of you guys and I will seek you out in the future. I especially appreciated the explanation of the link between civil rights and WWII and how the aftereffects of WWI and WWII were so different for African-American soldiers. Keep up the good work.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally fascinating show. I&#8217;ve never heard of you guys and I will seek you out in the future. I especially appreciated the explanation of the link between civil rights and WWII and how the aftereffects of WWI and WWII were so different for African-American soldiers. Keep up the good work.!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History Guys,

Thanks for a great program on Veteran&#039;s Day.  This is the first time I&#039;ve heard your show (on 94.9 FM KUOW Seattle public radio) and I was very impressed.  I so appreciated Ed Ayer&#039;s interview method with the member of the Sons of the Confederacy.  It was a great interview, but when the Son&#039;s of the Confederacy fellow tried to claim that the civil war was not about slavery, that was just too much.  It is frustrating on radio (especially public radio) when the reporter or interviewer does not challenge false statements or propoganda made by the interviewee.  I thought Mr. Ayers handled the situation very deftly.  He remained respectful, but he made sure the listeners were not given misinformation about history.  He then gave the interviewee another chance to address the issue and in the end I think he was able to tell his side of the story.

Thank you for your intelligent program.  I intend to do more listening.

Port Townsend, WA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History Guys,</p>
<p>Thanks for a great program on Veteran&#8217;s Day.  This is the first time I&#8217;ve heard your show (on 94.9 FM KUOW Seattle public radio) and I was very impressed.  I so appreciated Ed Ayer&#8217;s interview method with the member of the Sons of the Confederacy.  It was a great interview, but when the Son&#8217;s of the Confederacy fellow tried to claim that the civil war was not about slavery, that was just too much.  It is frustrating on radio (especially public radio) when the reporter or interviewer does not challenge false statements or propoganda made by the interviewee.  I thought Mr. Ayers handled the situation very deftly.  He remained respectful, but he made sure the listeners were not given misinformation about history.  He then gave the interviewee another chance to address the issue and in the end I think he was able to tell his side of the story.</p>
<p>Thank you for your intelligent program.  I intend to do more listening.</p>
<p>Port Townsend, WA</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Knorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Knorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for today&#039;s show with so much compelling content, and for making Ed Tick of Soldier&#039;s Heart part of the line up.  Have you seen his thoughtful comments (made from Viet Nam where he is leading an international healing veterans mission) re: the Fort Hood tragedy?  You can see them online at http://www.soldiersheart.net/resources/pdf_articles/Fort_Hood_Belongs_to_All.pdf
and I&#039;ll try to paste in here as well:

&quot; THE FT. HOOD TRAGEDY BELONGS TO US ALL
Edward Tick, Ph.D.

I have had the great honor of working with our fine and dedicated troops at Ft. Hood.  I have spent time with the clergy, behavioral staff, officers and troops.  I was deeply impressed and moved by their degree of commitment, sincerity, love of country and service, and willingness to sacrifice.

I am also heartbroken to admit that I saw massive numbers and degrees of visible and invisible wounds at Ft. Hood. Countless troops with every wound from missing body parts to extreme Post-traumatic Stress Disorder.  Countless recycling of these wounded for further deployments where troops are needed.  Untold frustration and despair among our dedicated clergy and behavioral staff in trying to treat more legions of wounded than anyone can possibly adequately help.

I do not know the psychiatrist who committed these killings.  But I do know that we are asking our troops to perform incredibly difficult and demanding missions -- both abroad and at home -- that exceed our human ability to digest, integrate and respond to.  Ft. Hood is a massive sanctuary of the wounded.  Many behavioral staff confided to me, sometimes numbed out and sometimes with secret tears, that they are in despair over the degree of wounding and numbers of wounded and are strained beyond human capacity to try to effectively treat them.

Our hearts should go out to every one of the victims of this tragedy, including the killer.  A person must be under unbearable strain to snap as he did.  He must have already been in an inner hell created by all the stories he heard and horror he witnessed.  One does not have to be a combat veteran to be a combat victim.  Now his private hell has spread its fires to our nation.

We must hear this tragedy as a wake up call to our nation.  There is a stress point beyond which all people break, from which they cannot return.  As a nation we must stop pushing our troops and their caregivers so far and expect performance beyond what is humanly possible.  Every one, including the psychiatrist, is a tragic victim here.  We must not do more violence by demonizing one person or his religion.  Rather, let our broken hearts open and realize that all our troops and their caregivers are carrying more pain than is tolerable, more demand than can be answered.

Please -- let your broken hearts open to every victim.  Judge not.  Realize we are asking too much from too few and giving them too little help, too little support, too little to work with.  This tragedy is all of our making.  It is up to all of us to respond and help our nation and its overwrought troops everywhere to heal. &quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for today&#8217;s show with so much compelling content, and for making Ed Tick of Soldier&#8217;s Heart part of the line up.  Have you seen his thoughtful comments (made from Viet Nam where he is leading an international healing veterans mission) re: the Fort Hood tragedy?  You can see them online at <a href="http://www.soldiersheart.net/resources/pdf_articles/Fort_Hood_Belongs_to_All.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.soldiersheart.net/resources/pdf_articles/Fort_Hood_Belongs_to_All.pdf</a><br />
and I&#8217;ll try to paste in here as well:</p>
<p>&#8221; THE FT. HOOD TRAGEDY BELONGS TO US ALL<br />
Edward Tick, Ph.D.</p>
<p>I have had the great honor of working with our fine and dedicated troops at Ft. Hood.  I have spent time with the clergy, behavioral staff, officers and troops.  I was deeply impressed and moved by their degree of commitment, sincerity, love of country and service, and willingness to sacrifice.</p>
<p>I am also heartbroken to admit that I saw massive numbers and degrees of visible and invisible wounds at Ft. Hood. Countless troops with every wound from missing body parts to extreme Post-traumatic Stress Disorder.  Countless recycling of these wounded for further deployments where troops are needed.  Untold frustration and despair among our dedicated clergy and behavioral staff in trying to treat more legions of wounded than anyone can possibly adequately help.</p>
<p>I do not know the psychiatrist who committed these killings.  But I do know that we are asking our troops to perform incredibly difficult and demanding missions &#8212; both abroad and at home &#8212; that exceed our human ability to digest, integrate and respond to.  Ft. Hood is a massive sanctuary of the wounded.  Many behavioral staff confided to me, sometimes numbed out and sometimes with secret tears, that they are in despair over the degree of wounding and numbers of wounded and are strained beyond human capacity to try to effectively treat them.</p>
<p>Our hearts should go out to every one of the victims of this tragedy, including the killer.  A person must be under unbearable strain to snap as he did.  He must have already been in an inner hell created by all the stories he heard and horror he witnessed.  One does not have to be a combat veteran to be a combat victim.  Now his private hell has spread its fires to our nation.</p>
<p>We must hear this tragedy as a wake up call to our nation.  There is a stress point beyond which all people break, from which they cannot return.  As a nation we must stop pushing our troops and their caregivers so far and expect performance beyond what is humanly possible.  Every one, including the psychiatrist, is a tragic victim here.  We must not do more violence by demonizing one person or his religion.  Rather, let our broken hearts open and realize that all our troops and their caregivers are carrying more pain than is tolerable, more demand than can be answered.</p>
<p>Please &#8212; let your broken hearts open to every victim.  Judge not.  Realize we are asking too much from too few and giving them too little help, too little support, too little to work with.  This tragedy is all of our making.  It is up to all of us to respond and help our nation and its overwrought troops everywhere to heal. &#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Mark Dorroh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dorroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When working as a news reporter in Hopewell, I accepted an invitation to an SCV meeting. The speaker was a great storyteller, the members were very friendly and their belief that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery was entirely without historical justification.

   It&#039;s pretty easy to see how this belief came into being; after losing the heck out of the war, no one wanted to admit it was fought in defense of the Peculiar Institution. But the facts suggest it was.

   The issue of the spread of slavery into new states as they joined the union sundered the 1860 Democratic National Convention in Charlston. That scism resulted in two Democratic candidates running against Lincoln, which got Abraham Lincoln elected as a plurality president, which in turn caused the South Carolina secession.

   Also, the vice president of the CSA, Alexander Stevens, publicly identified the slavery as the cornerstone of the CSA in a widely published speech. Finally, in letters and diaries written by CSA soldiers, white racial supremacy was repeatedly identified as the reason they were willing to fight and die. The CSA has a lot of good guys in it, but a lot of what they believe is pure horse hockey.

   Great show! Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When working as a news reporter in Hopewell, I accepted an invitation to an SCV meeting. The speaker was a great storyteller, the members were very friendly and their belief that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery was entirely without historical justification.</p>
<p>   It&#8217;s pretty easy to see how this belief came into being; after losing the heck out of the war, no one wanted to admit it was fought in defense of the Peculiar Institution. But the facts suggest it was.</p>
<p>   The issue of the spread of slavery into new states as they joined the union sundered the 1860 Democratic National Convention in Charlston. That scism resulted in two Democratic candidates running against Lincoln, which got Abraham Lincoln elected as a plurality president, which in turn caused the South Carolina secession.</p>
<p>   Also, the vice president of the CSA, Alexander Stevens, publicly identified the slavery as the cornerstone of the CSA in a widely published speech. Finally, in letters and diaries written by CSA soldiers, white racial supremacy was repeatedly identified as the reason they were willing to fight and die. The CSA has a lot of good guys in it, but a lot of what they believe is pure horse hockey.</p>
<p>   Great show! Keep up the good work!</p>
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