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	<title>Comments on: Turf War: A History of College Sports</title>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-95402</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listened to this podcast today. I enjoyed the part about the University of Alabama. I am a 4th generation long time fan. The statement about how Bear Bryant could have been a hero if he had stood up and integrated the football team 8 years before when the school integrated hit a nerve. I had to go back in my mind because I thought that wasn&#039;t really fair. From what I have learned about Bear he wanted to integrate the team long before but the school and the state wouldn&#039;t really allow it. Didn&#039;t he try to integrate Kentucky and Texas A&amp;M in the 50s but they wouldn&#039;t have it? I&#039;m not sure if Wikipedia is correct but see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant. I grew up in AL in the 70s and my father thought Bear was a god. Even after integration AL was a hard place to be black. Some would say it still is. Most of the state seems to be in a time warp to me. So, I see Bear as a man who was ahead of his time in trying to do the right thing but maybe he had to bend to peer pressure to get his job done. Does that mean he could have been stronger? Well, I guess but it must have been hard to live in those shoes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listened to this podcast today. I enjoyed the part about the University of Alabama. I am a 4th generation long time fan. The statement about how Bear Bryant could have been a hero if he had stood up and integrated the football team 8 years before when the school integrated hit a nerve. I had to go back in my mind because I thought that wasn&#8217;t really fair. From what I have learned about Bear he wanted to integrate the team long before but the school and the state wouldn&#8217;t really allow it. Didn&#8217;t he try to integrate Kentucky and Texas A&amp;M in the 50s but they wouldn&#8217;t have it? I&#8217;m not sure if Wikipedia is correct but see this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant</a>. I grew up in AL in the 70s and my father thought Bear was a god. Even after integration AL was a hard place to be black. Some would say it still is. Most of the state seems to be in a time warp to me. So, I see Bear as a man who was ahead of his time in trying to do the right thing but maybe he had to bend to peer pressure to get his job done. Does that mean he could have been stronger? Well, I guess but it must have been hard to live in those shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Best of Times: BackStory Year in Review &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of Times: BackStory Year in Review &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brett Abbott</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-27420</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just listened to this one and was jarred by the rapid switch from an excellent story about the integration of southern college football during the civil rights movement to a piece asking if college sports was related to slavery. While a thought provoking argument, I have a hard time believing the story of the integration of the Alabama team with its forgotten heroes and modern day mythology was a march towards less freedom and opportunity for the athletes involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just listened to this one and was jarred by the rapid switch from an excellent story about the integration of southern college football during the civil rights movement to a piece asking if college sports was related to slavery. While a thought provoking argument, I have a hard time believing the story of the integration of the Alabama team with its forgotten heroes and modern day mythology was a march towards less freedom and opportunity for the athletes involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Turf War: Show Segments &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turf War: Show Segments &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The following are individual show segments included in the BackStory episode &#8220;Turf War: A History of College Sports&#8221;, broadcast in September 2012. You can listen to the entire episode here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The following are individual show segments included in the BackStory episode &#8220;Turf War: A History of College Sports&#8221;, broadcast in September 2012. You can listen to the entire episode here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ohs</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-26271</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Ohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three years. Mr James would not have been able to play football but is able to play basketball?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three years. Mr James would not have been able to play football but is able to play basketball?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ohs</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-26269</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Ohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three years. This seems to be a rule that would have restricted Mr. James had he been a football player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three years. This seems to be a rule that would have restricted Mr. James had he been a football player.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Southerlandlgsouther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Southerlandlgsouther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One point of clarification, which only matters because y&#039;all are historians and care about accuracy. The Sam Bam Cunningham game vs. Alabama was not in Tuscaloosa but in Birmingham, where Bama played most of its home games in the 60s and 70s.  Otherwise a great episode.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point of clarification, which only matters because y&#8217;all are historians and care about accuracy. The Sam Bam Cunningham game vs. Alabama was not in Tuscaloosa but in Birmingham, where Bama played most of its home games in the 60s and 70s.  Otherwise a great episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Pencek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Pencek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your reaction to Branch&#039;s evocation of slavery overlooked gradations of exploitation.. Athletes in big-time programs are much more akin to post-Civil War agricultural workers, from share croppers to undocumented alien field hands, who structurally are intimidated into accepting  their lot.  

I wish someone would bring make the case that D-I scholarships are contracts for peonage  and therefore  unenforceable under the 13th Amendment..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction to Branch&#8217;s evocation of slavery overlooked gradations of exploitation.. Athletes in big-time programs are much more akin to post-Civil War agricultural workers, from share croppers to undocumented alien field hands, who structurally are intimidated into accepting  their lot.  </p>
<p>I wish someone would bring make the case that D-I scholarships are contracts for peonage  and therefore  unenforceable under the 13th Amendment..</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Stevens</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-26113</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love your show, and enjoyed the recent episode on college sports.  I have to take exception to your wrap up of the show, regarding the benefits of college sports.  My view is not that college sports are inherently bad, but that the outsized importance of sports, and the influx of large amounts of money surrounding them are corrupting on universities.  In my mind, the problem is that, whereas MLB has established a minor leagues to train young athletes and to identify the exceptional players, the NFL and NBA have simply used the college sports apparatus for that purpose (without having to pay for it, I might add).  Imagine if the NFL and NBA set up minor leagues as MLB has. Then a larger pool of young athletes would have the opportunity to be paid for their work, and smaller communities would have the benefit of community sport teams.  If, as Ed stated, that most colleges don&#039;t make money from sports, then the outsized importance of sports on college campuses is even less justified.  Colleges could potentially make money by renting out their sports facilities to community teams if building new facilities is not possible or economically feasible.

At the bottom line, college sports should be for students, not a money making opportunity for television networks.  Athletes who make money for others should be paid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your show, and enjoyed the recent episode on college sports.  I have to take exception to your wrap up of the show, regarding the benefits of college sports.  My view is not that college sports are inherently bad, but that the outsized importance of sports, and the influx of large amounts of money surrounding them are corrupting on universities.  In my mind, the problem is that, whereas MLB has established a minor leagues to train young athletes and to identify the exceptional players, the NFL and NBA have simply used the college sports apparatus for that purpose (without having to pay for it, I might add).  Imagine if the NFL and NBA set up minor leagues as MLB has. Then a larger pool of young athletes would have the opportunity to be paid for their work, and smaller communities would have the benefit of community sport teams.  If, as Ed stated, that most colleges don&#8217;t make money from sports, then the outsized importance of sports on college campuses is even less justified.  Colleges could potentially make money by renting out their sports facilities to community teams if building new facilities is not possible or economically feasible.</p>
<p>At the bottom line, college sports should be for students, not a money making opportunity for television networks.  Athletes who make money for others should be paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 15:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From my point of view, one of the biggest drawbacks of college sports (and professional sports, for that matter) can be filed under Unintended Consequences (I still hold that you could do either a show or a recurring feature on U.C.&#039;s).. In the case of college sports, I believe it has a detrimental effect on the teaching of physical education, such that the purpose of P.E. in the lower grades is less about teaching children to use their bodies and more about sorting the athletic wheat from the chaff. 

I personally experienced a brief halcyon period when Mrs. Barnes, my grade school P.E. teacher, gave me tutoring in the subject, until budget cuts required her to make the rounds and teach at three different schools. After that, and especially as I got older, it became clear to me that the main purpose of gym class was to allow the coaches to internally scout the school&#039;s athletic talent (often these people were one and the same). The rest of us were largely left to our own devices at best, or starred in the entertainment of ridicule at worst. While I have little other than anecdotal evidence and pop culture depictions to support the idea that my experience was and is common, given the amounts of such evidence and the poor physical fitness of so many Americans, I think there is something to this notion.

I suspect that if big time sports weren&#039;t so important in terms of money and prestige, there might be more room for the novel concept of tutoring athletically challenged children in more places. After all, we tutor children in math and English and other academic subjects. So why is tutoring in phys. ed. largely unheard of? (Aside from budget cuts and attacks on the public sector generally and public education particularly, that is.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my point of view, one of the biggest drawbacks of college sports (and professional sports, for that matter) can be filed under Unintended Consequences (I still hold that you could do either a show or a recurring feature on U.C.&#8217;s).. In the case of college sports, I believe it has a detrimental effect on the teaching of physical education, such that the purpose of P.E. in the lower grades is less about teaching children to use their bodies and more about sorting the athletic wheat from the chaff. </p>
<p>I personally experienced a brief halcyon period when Mrs. Barnes, my grade school P.E. teacher, gave me tutoring in the subject, until budget cuts required her to make the rounds and teach at three different schools. After that, and especially as I got older, it became clear to me that the main purpose of gym class was to allow the coaches to internally scout the school&#8217;s athletic talent (often these people were one and the same). The rest of us were largely left to our own devices at best, or starred in the entertainment of ridicule at worst. While I have little other than anecdotal evidence and pop culture depictions to support the idea that my experience was and is common, given the amounts of such evidence and the poor physical fitness of so many Americans, I think there is something to this notion.</p>
<p>I suspect that if big time sports weren&#8217;t so important in terms of money and prestige, there might be more room for the novel concept of tutoring athletically challenged children in more places. After all, we tutor children in math and English and other academic subjects. So why is tutoring in phys. ed. largely unheard of? (Aside from budget cuts and attacks on the public sector generally and public education particularly, that is.)</p>
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		<title>By: Turf War: Further Exploration &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</title>
		<link>http://backstoryradio.org/turf-war-a-history-of-college-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-26036</link>
		<dc:creator>Turf War: Further Exploration &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The following are a list of sources used or consulted in the making of the BackStory episode &#8220;Turf War: A History of College Sports&#8221;, broadcast in September 2012. You can listen to the entire episode here. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ramona Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramona Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to take this opportunity to apologize to the U of C&#039;s English department for my heinous grammatical error. I would not blame them if they disavowed me as an alumna or an &#039;alumni&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to take this opportunity to apologize to the U of C&#8217;s English department for my heinous grammatical error. I would not blame them if they disavowed me as an alumna or an &#8216;alumni&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Turf War: Music &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turf War: Music &#124; BackStory with the American History Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This is a list of music used in the BackStory episode &#8220;Turf War: A History of College Sports&#8221;, broadcast in September 2012. You can listen to the entire episode here. [...]]]></description>
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